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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #100 on: April 16, 2018, 07:23:43 pm »

Forgot about 2017 already.

How did you manage to do that already. I’m, um, asking for a friend.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #101 on: April 16, 2018, 07:35:49 pm »

Was going off a recent ranking. You can make an argument for several QBs. Ryan has a better TD:INT ratio and almost the same yardage and completion percentage as Tyler.

Even if you want to split hairs about 3 great QBs I think my point is still valid.

That only one of them was a 5*?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #102 on: April 16, 2018, 07:46:16 pm »

This would be a no brainer.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #103 on: April 16, 2018, 09:30:05 pm »

Let him have a chance!
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #104 on: April 16, 2018, 10:33:26 pm »

I see

he's automatically Ricky Towne

got it
Could be Mitch Mustang or Gary Brassieres or he could be Matt Jonesing or Ryan Hammer.  You never know, but he is worth a spot on the roster.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/5-star-qbs-last-decade/
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2018, 10:53:35 pm »

If you watch this guys HS tape, there is plenty to be excited about.

First, his size is good. Obviously has room to add some more weight, but 6'4 is nice and tall and he isn't rail thin like Hyatt. Also, he's probably gained some weight already in a college program not to mention he'd have to sit out another year here so that should not be a problem when it comes time for him to be ready to play.

His release: Above average. No hitches in his throwing motion. Doesn't have a long windup. He isn't as fast as BA or Noland are, but they are top level release quickness. Also, over the top delivery, which combined with already being 6'4, not likely to have a lot of balls batted down.

Arm strength: Very good. Early on in his highlight tape, you can see him throw the ball 50 yards downfield. It's a bit more than a flick of the wrist, but he wasn't having to put everything he had into the throw either. He routinely throws passes 20-30 pounds downfield that are on a rope.

Accuracy: He is frequently hitting the receivers in stride. That 50 yard downfield pass? The receiver was hit in stride. As this is a highlight video, it's impossible to say how consistently he is that accurate, but there are a lot of plays in that video, so he certainly does it with decent frequency.

Movement: He throws well on the run. 30 yards downfield on a rope hitting a receiver in stride while rolling out and without setting his feet. That said, you watch him and even when he is moving around and often when rolling out, he shows good footwork by being able to set his feet to throw without having to stop and adjust. Again going back to that 50 yard throw, pressure had come from the outside, he was able to step into the pocket and didn't quite have time to fully set his feet but was still able to hit the throw as previously described.

Last and definitely least, athletic ability: Least not because this is his worst trait, but because even in Morris's offense, this is by far the least important trait. HJ is very athletic. He reports a 4.7 forty time and that looks to be pretty accurate. Plenty of HS players will report a 4.4 or a 4.5 time and not show any burst or speed that HJ doesn't show on his tape. He has good burst, has some wiggle in his hip, and routinely beats the angles of the HS players. Doubtful that translates 1:1 at the collegiate level, but his reported numbers are better than Hyatt's, though Hyatts are electronically timed at a HS combine.

Overall, this would definitely be a player to be excited about if there is any actual truth to the rumor and he could very well be the Morris's Mallett.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2018, 11:01:04 pm »

That only one of them was a 5*?
You said that we saw a 5* a few years ago that didn't fit.

Maybe I read in more than I should, because it seemed to me that you were downplaying the potential of a 5* QB coming in and having impact or that this particular QB "didn't fit".

I pointed out that one of the best in school history was a 5* transfer, trying to point out that when it works it can be game-changing.

Not every 5* is a sure thing, but the ones that hit (and they actually hit at a very high percentage rate) tend to have one or more game-breaking attributes.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2018, 11:16:18 pm »

Let's go ahead and make it official
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #108 on: April 17, 2018, 12:13:48 am »

Could be Mitch Mustang or Gary Brassieres

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/5-star-qbs-last-decade/
That Brassieres guy was popular with the ladies.  In many different sizes.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #109 on: April 17, 2018, 01:19:39 am »

How did you manage to do that already. I’m, um, asking for a friend.

Whiskey helps. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #110 on: April 17, 2018, 04:46:59 am »

So what happened to the excitement with Cole Keilly?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #112 on: April 17, 2018, 07:12:23 am »

So what happened to the excitement with Cole Keilly?

Too many on here are enamored with the idea of having a running QB and are ignoring what style of QB Morris used in his last 2 years at SMU.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #113 on: April 17, 2018, 07:22:50 am »

You said that we saw a 5* a few years ago that didn't fit.

Maybe I read in more than I should, because it seemed to me that you were downplaying the potential of a 5* QB coming in and having impact or that this particular QB "didn't fit".

I pointed out that one of the best in school history was a 5* transfer, trying to point out that when it works it can be game-changing.

Not every 5* is a sure thing, but the ones that hit (and they actually hit at a very high percentage rate) tend to have one or more game-breaking attributes.

I was saying that being a 5* transfer doesn't make him a sure fire fit. If he decides to transfer, and if he decides to look at us, and if Morris decides to recruit him, then we'll have something to talk about.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #115 on: April 17, 2018, 07:28:10 am »

JUCO.
Yep, forgot he went to JUCO after being at Iowa for 2 years.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2018, 08:18:53 am »

So what happened to the excitement with Cole Keilly?
I still think he will do well but if you can get a player that highly sought after, you don't turn them down.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2018, 08:45:56 am »

And yet a 5* transfer is the top passing QB in Razorback history.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2018, 08:47:26 am »

Tyler Wilson holds the career passing yardage, BA holds career TD and single game TD  records. Mallett does hold the single season records in yardage and TD's.
obviously a transfer wont be the career record holder. But single season TDs and yards, as well as the fact that he is still an NFL QB 6 years later, tells me transferring 5* QBs can work out very nicely.

Obviously this is much ado about nothing at this point. If Hunter announces he's transferring than I'll get my hopes up a bit.

Gunnel is looking less and less likely as time goes by anyway. None of these QBs on campus appear to be the long term answer. I guess one of the true freshman could be, or maybe KJ comes in next year and takes over for four years, idk, but, I'd put Hunter right at the front of the line if he shows up. Of course he'd have to earn it, but, from a fan's perspective, he'd be the front runner.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #119 on: April 17, 2018, 08:55:13 am »

Too many on here are enamored with the idea of having a running QB and are ignoring what style of QB Morris used in his last 2 years at SMU.

The style he could get?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #120 on: April 17, 2018, 10:16:58 am »

Enough with the food fight, insults and bashing players and/or recruits.

If you don't have something constructive to say about the topic....just don't post.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2018, 10:20:50 am »

10-4
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #122 on: April 17, 2018, 01:06:07 pm »

This isn’t actually a thing. There’s no legit truth to it in the least.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #123 on: April 17, 2018, 03:59:20 pm »

Hunter Johnson is a good player, and could help us.  He fits the dual option Morris wants and can make some great throws on the run Did anyone actually look at his mopup duty stats or high school/elite 11 tape?

78% Completion, 2 td and 1 int.  He was a true FR last year, so could transfer in RS and have 3 to play 3.  Not to mention, I would think his knowledge of the offense (Clemson & Morris offense are similar) would potentially be better than our guys.

He is 3rd string on a National Championship contender because the #1 overall player in nation who is a freak prospect enrolled. That and he lost the job as a true FR to another great veteran QB who shined last season. Give him a year to learn the offense under Morris, and I would think he'd be ready to roll!
A guy on ESPNU this morning was saying that Clemson probably has the most talented 4-some of QBs he's ever seen on one team.  This guy was at their spring game and was impressed by all of them including Johnson.  And they played everything live except tackling the QBs. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #124 on: April 17, 2018, 04:07:49 pm »

Too many on here are enamored with the idea of having a running QB and are ignoring what style of QB Morris used in his last 2 years at SMU.

1. Hunter Johnson isn’t a running QB. Did run track. But not really a runner on film.

2. Chad Morris’s success at SMU without a running QB is basically irrelevant as the SEC is a different animal Defensively. A QB will need to be a threat running to achieve high success here
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #125 on: April 17, 2018, 05:14:00 pm »

1. Hunter Johnson isn’t a running QB. Did run track. But not really a runner on film.

2. Chad Morris’s success at SMU without a running QB is basically irrelevant as the SEC is a different animal Defensively. A QB will need to be a threat running to achieve high success here

Mallet had -103 yards rushing. Wilson had -44 yards.

10 & 11 win seasons respectively.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #126 on: April 17, 2018, 05:15:02 pm »

There is another angle. Some dandy WR's might pop up on our radar next year who have camped with such high profile QB's.We need the infusion in other places also. Create a stir if you will. Dabo n Nick n Kirby can't get em all.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #127 on: April 17, 2018, 05:30:00 pm »

Mallet had -103 yards rushing. Wilson had -44 yards.

10 & 11 win seasons respectively.

I thought it was obvious I was speaking to Chad Morris’s offense. Clearly I was mistaken
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #128 on: April 17, 2018, 06:58:37 pm »

Too many on here are enamored with the idea of having a running QB and are ignoring what style of QB Morris used in his last 2 years at SMU.

Morris was only there two years. SMU needed a QB and Ben Hicks was a pro style guy who was already talking with SMU when Morris took the job. Morris then went out and signed JUCO Dual Threat QB in DJ Gillins. In other words, Morris can play a pro style or dual threat in his hurry up offense.

My guess is he'll get the best QB he can every year and work him into his system.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #129 on: April 17, 2018, 08:50:09 pm »

I thought it was obvious I was speaking to Chad Morris’s offense. Clearly I was mistaken

Agree to disagree then.

From 2011-2013, Tajh Boyd ran for 29 yards per game and won a bunch of games.

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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #130 on: April 17, 2018, 08:57:42 pm »

Agree to disagree then.

From 2011-2013, Tajh Boyd ran for 29 yards per game and won a bunch of games.

Are you really trying to portray a 3 year starter with 1165 rushing yards and 26 rushing TD’s as a non running threat?

You also realize that sacks count against these rushing numbers as well, correct?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #131 on: April 17, 2018, 09:16:48 pm »

Are you really trying to portray a 3 year starter with 1165 rushing yards and 26 rushing TD’s as a non running threat?

You also realize that sacks count against these rushing numbers as well, correct?

I'm aware. I'm also aware he started 40 games.

Morris' 1st QB at SMU - 761 yds rushing. 2-10 record.

Ben Hicks the last two years - minus 36 yds rushing. 5 & 7 wins

Not saying I care one way or the other, I just believe he can be successful with or without a QB rushing for a ton of yards.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #133 on: April 17, 2018, 10:56:37 pm »

This isn’t actually a thing. There’s no legit truth to it in the least.

Shhhh. Don't spoil it. Its too much fun to laugh at the idiocy
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #134 on: April 18, 2018, 10:48:59 am »

Bottom Line.if you have a chance to bring in a 5 star talent at QB,you bring him in.this game is still about talent.coaching counts.but it's about talent.if he wants to come here,you take him.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #135 on: April 18, 2018, 11:45:44 am »

Look at what bringing in a 5* transfer QB did for Auburn. Stiddham helped take that team to a New Years 6 bowl and they will be a tough out this year now that he has a year of sec experience under him. Im all for bringing in Johnson but he will have to win the job and not have it handed to him
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« Reply #136 on: April 18, 2018, 01:50:31 pm »

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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #137 on: April 18, 2018, 04:51:59 pm »

A guy on ESPNU this morning was saying that Clemson probably has the most talented 4-some of QBs he's ever seen on one team.  This guy was at their spring game and was impressed by all of them including Johnson.  And they played everything live except tackling the QBs. 

Not the only area where they are loaded.

Venables' potential 11 starters on defense could all end up being NFL draft picks.

Their probable starting 4 defensive linemen will probably all be 2019 NFL 1st Round draft picks.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #138 on: April 18, 2018, 05:24:38 pm »

Well that is stupid. He literally said he wants to play in a bert offense. Not a spread option offense.

Well Craddock is now following him and Allen is following Craddock back
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2018, 09:14:55 pm »

Well Craddock is now following him and Allen is following Craddock back
well, he'd be the lowest rated QB on the roster.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2018, 09:18:11 pm »

well, he'd be the lowest rated QB on the roster.

Take your complaint to Craddock. I’m just providing information
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #141 on: April 22, 2018, 10:57:54 am »

5 stars yes, but does he have the Vin Ascolese/Kane Whitehurst/Ricky Town seal of approval?

When it was announced that Town was transferring here, someone on here even regurgitated some terrible 70s disco song, maybe the worst ever recorded that didn't involve Madonna or Lady Gaga..
What 70's disco songs did Madonna and Lady Gaga get involved in?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #142 on: April 22, 2018, 12:42:24 pm »

April is about over and August/September is around the corner, just 4 to 5 more months!

The first 3 games probably will be the most anticipated, exciting, and enlighten since the start of the Holtz era, and Petrino era! I cannot wait to see the CSU game here in CO!

We will know what will be in store for the fans for the next 3 to 5 years with these overcoming games. Not only the offense...but our new defensive scheme! How wonderfully exciting!

Two questions will be answered for sure....can we become the HUNH Spread offense that 50% of the fan base wants, and is convinced, will be effective enough to compete in our conference? And can we have a ball-hawking, turnover scoring, defense that wins in the SEC?

Questions will be answered....and I can hardly wait!

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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #143 on: April 25, 2018, 09:47:34 am »

April is about over and August/September is around the corner, just 4 to 5 more months!

The first 3 games probably will be the most anticipated, exciting, and enlighten since the start of the Holtz era, and Petrino era! I cannot wait to see the CSU game here in CO!

We will know what will be in store for the fans for the next 3 to 5 years with these overcoming games. Not only the offense...but our new defensive scheme! How wonderfully exciting!

Two questions will be answered for sure....can we become the HUNH Spread offense that 50% of the fan base wants, and is convinced, will be effective enough to compete in our conference? And can we have a ball-hawking, turnover scoring, defense that wins in the SEC?

Questions will be answered....and I can hardly wait!



I’m not so sure there will be many questions answered. First year, with a lot of ?s on the roster. There weren’t a lot of “answers” standing out Bobby’s first season at Arkansas either.

I’m just saying I would try not to get too high or too low about much of what you see this year. I’d like to see consistent effort from wire to wire, I think that is a thing to read into a first year but I digress.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #144 on: April 25, 2018, 12:03:47 pm »

I’m not so sure there will be many questions answered. First year, with a lot of ?s on the roster. There weren’t a lot of “answers” standing out Bobby’s first season at Arkansas either.

I’m just saying I would try not to get too high or too low about much of what you see this year. I’d like to see consistent effort from wire to wire, I think that is a thing to read into a first year but I digress.

Now now, don't damper the spirits of Hogville's finest. Many of them have said over the past couple of years that we had plenty of talent to compete, Ole Big Boy just wasn't smart enough to play them. When he did play them, he was too stupid to play them in the right positions the experts of Hogville said. They said all we needed was a new coach and we would be instant winners. Now I have placed my bets on the sage advice of these experts who visit Hogville in their free time, sacrificing time with their family or golf clubs so they may enlighten those of us not smart enough to see the success that is coming. If you are now saying something different and this is not the year I will get rich off of the Hogs, then I am in for a heap of trouble.
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« Reply #145 on: April 25, 2018, 12:14:23 pm »

Now now, don't damper the spirits of Hogville's finest. Many of them have said over the past couple of years that we had plenty of talent to compete, Ole Big Boy just wasn't smart enough to play them. When he did play them, he was too stupid to play them in the right positions the experts of Hogville said. They said all we needed was a new coach and we would be instant winners. Now I have placed my bets on the sage advice of these experts who visit Hogville in their free time, sacrificing time with their family or golf clubs so they may enlighten those of us not smart enough to see the success that is coming. If you are now saying something different and this is not the year I will get rich off of the Hogs, then I am in for a heap of trouble.
A guy who has post nearly 3700 times on here is making fun of people for being on this site....hmmm  ???
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #146 on: April 25, 2018, 01:03:26 pm »

Last year was actually my best season betting college football mostly off the back of betting against Arkansas.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #147 on: April 25, 2018, 03:49:29 pm »

I know his family, good group.  Saw him play a few times when I went back home to Indianapolis.  If this is true its news to me, I'd be glad to place a call to get him here though!
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #148 on: April 25, 2018, 06:50:03 pm »

I know his family, good group.  Saw him play a few times when I went back home to Indianapolis.  If this is true its news to me, I'd be glad to place a call to get him here though!
Man, if it was me I wouldnt be able to help myself. Id LOVE to get Hunter friggin Johnson on the Hill. We'd treat him like a King up here, man.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #149 on: April 25, 2018, 07:10:36 pm »

I know his family, good group.  Saw him play a few times when I went back home to Indianapolis.  If this is true its news to me, I'd be glad to place a call to get him here though!

Do it. Time's a wasting.
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