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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2018, 07:10:50 pm »

They'll have to get the right kind of grass to put down to keep it looking good in November. Certain types can look good year round if taken good care of and the right kind. I think that was some of our previous issue with a grass field. We didn't have the right type that could withstand football being played on it, withstand the elements of northern Arkansas. I'd look at what Green Bay and northwestern use. Get their input.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2018, 07:18:10 pm »

They should paint the endzones red and white. One side red with "Arkansas" in white caption, the other in white with red "Razorbacks" caption..

Or Both endzones red with white caption.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2018, 07:19:13 pm »

Not correct. Mississippi State's Stadium has a Turf surface.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2018, 07:22:29 pm »

WRONG AGAIN!

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2018, 07:31:10 pm »

Not correct. Mississippi State's Stadium has a Turf surface.

Mississippi State is known nationally for their turf management program. Of all of the SEC schools, they for sure have a grass field.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2018, 07:36:37 pm »

Mississippi State is known nationally for their turf management program. Of all of the SEC schools, they for sure have a grass field.

Yeah, I read up on it. That's something that the U of A should consider looking in to.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2018, 08:30:03 pm »


That's an interesting concept. The U of A should look into that.






You admitting when wrong would be an interesting concept.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2018, 10:58:45 pm »

They'll have to get the right kind of grass to put down to keep it looking good in November. Certain types can look good year round if taken good care of and the right kind. I think that was some of our previous issue with a grass field. We didn't have the right type that could withstand football being played on it, withstand the elements of northern Arkansas. I'd look at what Green Bay and northwestern use. Get their input.


Packers use Kentucky blue grass/synthetic field  with antifreeze system and grow lights


UAs problem is they’re right on the edge of the tradition zone.  Bermuda might get cold stress but real summer hard on northern stuff.

They should stick with turf
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2018, 11:01:17 pm »


Packers use Kentucky blue grass/synthetic field  with antifreeze system and grow lights


UAs problem is they’re right on the edge of the tradition zone.  Bermuda might get cold stress but real summer hard on northern stuff.

They should stick with turf
They'll have to water and fertilize it a lot during the summer. I'm sure they will be planning for all contingencies. They're going to have to.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2018, 11:05:22 pm »

No it's not, it's the system of drainage for the turf, lol. If you are able to read, it says it uses an underground system of vacuums, moisture sensors and drain pipes to either drain excess water from the field or to backflow and send water to the grass roots. Under the turf is a twoply plastic sheet that seals off the field from the surrounding earth. The growing medium above the liner is largely sand, which aids in drainage.


http://www.purdue.edu/uns/html3month/1990-95/9111.Tally.AthleticTurf.html
Why would artificial turf need all that irrigation and drainage ???
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2018, 11:07:06 pm »

I'm surprised/disappointed no one has dropped either a joke or a conspiracy theory about Les Miles, yet
'Cause I've been holding back!
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2018, 11:09:34 pm »

Yeah, I read up on it. That's something that the U of A should consider looking in to.
Guess what!  They are!
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2018, 06:22:23 am »

Why would artificial turf need all that irrigation and drainage ???

Because it's in the prescription, duh??
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2018, 08:46:16 am »

Because it's in the prescription, duh??
I blame the Lawn Doctor.   >:(
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2018, 08:59:18 am »

I have no preference as a fan.  Whatever coach wants is fine with me.

This. I believe most players I’ve heard asked this question about a preference of one over the other also prefer grass most of the time.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2018, 09:04:08 am »

Throwing more money into a stadium that will only see 2 SEC home games that year.. only in Arkansas.

Throwing money into a stadium that the players and recruits might like better no matter who the opponent is.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2018, 09:05:58 am »

SMU had turf the entire time Morris was there.

SMU replaced the turf in 2016, after Morris had been there 1 year.
https://smumustangs.com/news/2016/7/19/football-smu-installing-new-turf-at-ford-stadium.aspx

However, Clemson's stadium had grass (still does) while Morris was there as OC.

So... not sure why Coach Morris prefers grass over turf, but he's ran offenses on both surfaces quite recently, and has been vocal about preferring grass.



Maybe it harkens back to his many years coaching in high school. I’m sure he had already decided on a preference before he ever started coaching in college.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2018, 09:07:15 am »


A grass field is easier to maintain throughout the season in Clemson and Dallas because of the warmer climate. I hope they can keep it looking good in Fayetteville but that will be difficult in November. The last time they had grass there, it looked bad late in the season. Since the stadium will be totally enclosed from now on, it will be even more difficult.

Wow. So now you are a grass expert as well.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2018, 09:11:57 am »


That's an interesting concept. The U of A should look into that.





Do you honestly think they didn’t do some research before making their decision.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2018, 09:13:12 am »

Wow. So now you are a grass expert as well.


Good grief man, it doesn't take an expert to know that Grass grows better and stays green longer in warmer climates.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2018, 09:20:52 am »

Come on guys it's really easy.

1.  Grass smells better and is easier on you when you bounce across/slide on it and you get fewer injuries.

2.  You don't get black lung from breathing ground up rubber when playing on grass.

Who really gives a croak about what it looks like?  Hell if you really do then go and paint it when it gets brown.

It's just healthier for our players.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2018, 09:24:25 am »


Packers use Kentucky blue grass/synthetic field  with antifreeze system and grow lights


UAs problem is they’re right on the edge of the tradition zone.  Bermuda might get cold stress but real summer hard on northern stuff.

They should stick with turf

They don’t care what you think.  What do you care anyway since you hate everything up there.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2018, 09:29:31 am »

Just glad to see the change. Football was meant to be played outdoors and on grass. Both should be a requirement.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2018, 10:06:07 am »

Do you honestly think they didn’t do some research before making their decision.

I'm sure they have and I like the concept.
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« Reply #74 on: May 28, 2018, 11:52:43 am »


Good grief man, it doesn't take an expert to know that Grass grows better and stays green longer in warmer climates.

Good grief man it depends on WHAT type of grass and WHAT climate. Grass grows almost everywhere. Just gotta get the right type and maintain it properly. Besides now the last game every other year is in that tropical climate of WMS. Ask yourself why they don’t have real grass there..............
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2018, 11:56:35 am »

Come on guys it's really easy.

1.  Grass smells better and is easier on you when you bounce across/slide on it and you get fewer injuries.

2.  You don't get black lung from breathing ground up rubber when playing on grass.

Who really gives a croak about what it looks like?  Hell if you really do then go and paint it when it gets brown.

It's just healthier for our players.

Which is worse, swallowing ground up rubber or paint from grass?
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« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2018, 12:00:06 pm »

Just glad to see the change. Football was meant to be played outdoors and on grass. Both should be a requirement.

You forgot leather helmets. Also travel was meant to be by horse and buggy, tall buildings didn't have elevators, communication was by pony express, hockey should always be played outdoors in freezing weather, work was meant to be in a sweltering factory without air conditioning or heat, etc. In other words advances in technology and building capability have allowed domes and indoor games of all types. Do I like outdoors on grass? Absolutely. However nothing wrong with artificial turf and/or indoors.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #77 on: May 28, 2018, 12:14:55 pm »

Which is worse, swallowing ground up rubber or paint from grass?

Breathing ground up rubber is the problem.

Besides, can you imagine just how funny it would be to see some nitwit with a third of a twelve pack trying to spray the field some night?

Imagine the betting opportunities-  Is he going for another can of spray paint or a beer?  The next time he falls over will he fall in the paint or out.  How many cops do you think it will take to take him down?  How many cops do you think they will use?  Fifteen or all of them.
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« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2018, 12:17:42 pm »

Breathing ground up rubber is the problem.

Besides, can you imagine just how funny it would be to see some nitwit with a third of a twelve pack trying to spray the field some night?

Imagine the betting opportunities-  Is he going for another can of spray paint or a beer?  The next time he falls over will he fall in the paint or out.  How many cops do you think it will take to take him down?  How many cops do you think they will use?  Fifteen or all of them.

If it is an OU quarterback it takes about four cops..............

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« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2018, 10:04:31 pm »

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it Bobby Petrino that wanted to go to turf to take advantage of speed? Or did we already have turf and he just wanted a different type? I really don't remember.

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« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2018, 10:15:45 pm »

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it Bobby Petrino that wanted to go to turf to take advantage of speed? Or did we already have turf and he just wanted a different type? I really don't remember.

We have switched back and forth. Bobby was just one of them.
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« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2018, 10:22:50 pm »

We have switched back and forth. Bobby was just one of them.


I played on that Astroturf at WMS back in 1984, I can't imagine why so many stadiums thought that was a good idea at the time. It was like playing on concrete covered with Berber carpet.
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« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2018, 10:27:06 pm »

I played on that Astroturf at WMS back in 1984, I can't imagine why so many stadiums thought that was a good idea at the time. It was like playing on concrete covered with Berber carpet.

Yep. That stuff was terrible. IIRC it was invented due to the Astrodome not being able to have real grass.

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« Reply #83 on: May 28, 2018, 10:34:42 pm »

Yep. That stuff was terrible. IIRC it was invented due to the Astrodome not being able to have real grass.

I believe it opened around 1965 or thereabouts. No telling how many careers were ended or cut short because of Astroturf.
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« Reply #84 on: May 28, 2018, 10:47:23 pm »

Fun Fact: The turf we currently have installed in DRRS is made from 90% recycled Pepsi bottles. 

Another gift from the carpetbagger Jeff Long.

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« Reply #85 on: May 29, 2018, 06:38:46 am »

Fun Fact: The turf we currently have installed in DRRS is made from 90% recycled Pepsi bottles. 

Another gift from the carpetbagger Jeff Long.

Dude was ahead of his time, we were under contract with Coke in 2009, still able to pull it off.
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« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2018, 06:54:13 am »

Will cut down on injuries
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« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2018, 10:13:20 am »

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« Reply #89 on: May 29, 2018, 10:33:51 am »

Will cut down on injuries

I remember one year we had so many leg/knee injuries from practicing inside Razorback stadium on that old stuff that Lou had them watering the turf to try to cut down on injuries.
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« Reply #90 on: May 29, 2018, 10:51:03 am »

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it Bobby Petrino that wanted to go to turf to take advantage of speed? Or did we already have turf and he just wanted a different type? I really don't remember.

Yes, Bobby also wanted the crown gone and a "flat field." He said it helped keep QB's from sailing the sideline routes over the receivers heads.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #91 on: May 29, 2018, 11:06:16 am »

 Old turfhog would be happy.  He had a 3 year "come-apart" when Petrino pulled the grass to go fieldturf. I remember that he wanted it so the team could practice in the stadium and the WR's & QB's could use familiar landmarks for routes and passes.
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« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2018, 11:44:58 am »

Perhaps Coke is next on the agenda.
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« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2018, 01:27:47 pm »

Most likely we will go with Latitude 36 Bermuda, which is more of a transitional zone Bermuda developed by OSU.  Its currently what they are using at Baum stadium.   Will be interesting to see if they over seed with rye in October like they do for the baseball field.

https://sodsolutions.com/grasses/latitude36-bermudagrass/
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« Reply #94 on: May 29, 2018, 01:44:40 pm »

I read the title as "RRS to get natural gas in 2019"....I thought FINALLY - they will be able to put real stoves in all of the concession stands - make them into little kitchens.

Guess not...

But I do like natural grass
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« Reply #95 on: May 29, 2018, 01:46:11 pm »

I was for grass until I saw the Seahawks play the Redskins @ FedEx Field in 2013.  The field was basically painted dirt by then.  That was the game were RG3 reinjured his knee.  The field was terrible the entire day but by the end of a tough game it was even worse.  It was horrible conditions for a wildcard game.

Grass is nice if it is well kept.  I hope we don't see a brown field come October/November. 

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« Reply #96 on: May 29, 2018, 03:11:40 pm »

Most likely we will go with Latitude 36 Bermuda, which is more of a transitional zone Bermuda developed by OSU.  Its currently what they are using at Baum stadium.   Will be interesting to see if they over seed with rye in October like they do for the baseball field.

https://sodsolutions.com/grasses/latitude36-bermudagrass/


If you can’t reliably grow some type of  Tifton on campus are you really an SEC school ?
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #97 on: May 30, 2018, 09:40:15 am »


If you can’t reliably grow some type of  Tifton on campus are you really an SEC school ?
What does Kentucky use? They are definitely north of us.

Btw, it’s Ole Piss, not State, that has artificial turf.
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« Reply #98 on: May 30, 2018, 10:07:51 am »

What does Kentucky use? They are definitely north of us.

Btw, it’s Ole Piss, not State, that has artificial turf.

Anything north of central Arkansas is yankee country to Iron and also some others still living in the past.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #99 on: May 30, 2018, 11:31:02 am »

What does Kentucky use? They are definitely north of us.

Btw, it’s Ole Piss, not State, that has artificial turf.

Ole Miss, switched back to natural grass as well.

https://olehottytoddy.com/2016/02/09/out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new-at-the-vaught/
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