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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2018, 08:57:20 pm »

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2018, 10:06:00 pm »

Great move.  So much more aesthetically pleasing in person and especially on TV.  Plus we get see grass stuck in face masks! 
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2018, 10:32:30 pm »

A very wise move.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2018, 10:48:29 pm »

I would have thought Bert would have made the change for his ground and pound and slow the game down. I know Bobby wanted the turf so we would play faster with better footing. Any insight to why CM prefers grass?
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 10:54:17 pm »

I have no preference as a fan.  Whatever coach wants is fine with me.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2018, 01:58:04 am »

I would have thought Bert would have made the change for his ground and pound and slow the game down. I know Bobby wanted the turf so we would play faster with better footing. Any insight to why CM prefers grass?

SMU had turf the entire time Morris was there.

SMU replaced the turf in 2016, after Morris had been there 1 year.
https://smumustangs.com/news/2016/7/19/football-smu-installing-new-turf-at-ford-stadium.aspx

However, Clemson's stadium had grass (still does) while Morris was there as OC.

So... not sure why Coach Morris prefers grass over turf, but he's ran offenses on both surfaces quite recently, and has been vocal about preferring grass.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2018, 06:34:10 am »

Throwing more money into a stadium that will only see 2 SEC home games that year.. only in Arkansas.

Cry more please.

ricepig

Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2018, 06:58:17 am »

Throwing more money into a stadium that will only see 2 SEC home games that year.. only in Arkansas.

We have to replace the turf, what do you suggest we play on?

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2018, 08:13:12 am »

I would have thought Bert would have made the change for his ground and pound and slow the game down. I know Bobby wanted the turf so we would play faster with better footing. Any insight to why CM prefers grass?

Just a guess but if you only have so many first rate starters and your recruiting base is spotty why not do everything you can to keep them injury free?
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2018, 08:49:28 am »

I think most players prefer grass.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2018, 09:07:17 am »

I think most players prefer grass.
Yes, most do nowadays. Also, most prefer a natural playing surface.  :P

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2018, 09:21:25 am »

SMU had turf the entire time Morris was there.

SMU replaced the turf in 2016, after Morris had been there 1 year.
https://smumustangs.com/news/2016/7/19/football-smu-installing-new-turf-at-ford-stadium.aspx

However, Clemson's stadium had grass (still does) while Morris was there as OC.

So... not sure why Coach Morris prefers grass over turf, but he's ran offenses on both surfaces quite recently, and has been vocal about preferring grass.



A grass field is easier to maintain throughout the season in Clemson and Dallas because of the warmer climate. I hope they can keep it looking good in Fayetteville but that will be difficult in November. The last time they had grass there, it looked bad late in the season. Since the stadium will be totally enclosed from now on, it will be even more difficult.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2018, 09:51:23 am »


A grass field is easier to maintain throughout the season in Clemson and Dallas because of the warmer climate. I hope they can keep it looking good in Fayetteville but that will be difficult in November. The last time they had grass there, it looked bad late in the season. Since the stadium will be totally enclosed from now on, it will be even more difficult.

Duh....Guv, I guess you missed that we were also installing artificial grow lights... 8)

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2018, 09:56:19 am »


A grass field is easier to maintain throughout the season in Clemson and Dallas because of the warmer climate. I hope they can keep it looking good in Fayetteville but that will be difficult in November. The last time they had grass there, it looked bad late in the season. Since the stadium will be totally enclosed from now on, it will be even more difficult.

Iowa State, Northwestern, Colorado and Michigan State all have excellent natural grass fields and have much colder weather.

The Chiefs, Packers, Bears, Browns,Eagles and Steelers also have grass fields.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2018, 10:24:44 am »


A grass field is easier to maintain throughout the season in Clemson and Dallas because of the warmer climate. I hope they can keep it looking good in Fayetteville but that will be difficult in November. The last time they had grass there, it looked bad late in the season. Since the stadium will be totally enclosed from now on, it will be even more difficult.
We can get rice to drill it in oats and rye grass at the end of October and hit it with shot of fertilizer.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2018, 11:00:02 am by Porkys Revenge »
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2018, 10:57:47 am »

Duh....Guv, I guess you missed that we were also installing artificial grow lights... 8)

There was a pay wall so I couldn't read the article.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2018, 11:02:08 am »

Iowa State, Northwestern, Colorado and Michigan State all have excellent natural grass fields and have much colder weather.

The Chiefs, Packers, Bears, Browns,Eagles and Steelers also have grass fields.

To each his own. I still believe a turf field is the better idea in Fayetteville. Tennessee has had a Grass field for decades and even they are looking at possibly switching to turf. How many schools in the SEC West currently have turf fields??

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2018, 11:15:02 am »

How many schools in the SEC West currently have turf fields??

None outside of us.
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ricepig

Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2018, 11:34:25 am »

There was a pay wall so I couldn't read the article.

That was a joke Guv, we aren't adding grow lights, although I bet there are a lot sitting in warehouses that were suppose to be in some "cultivating" facilties located in the state, ha.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2018, 11:49:07 am »

Throwing more money into a stadium that will only see 2 SEC home games that year.. only in Arkansas.
Lol are you serious? It’s would cost more to replace the turf. What do you recommend they play on? Concrete?
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ricepig

Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2018, 11:52:02 am »

Lol are you serious? It’s would cost more to replace the turf. What do you recommend they play on concrete?

I'm not sure about that, they had to remove soil and put down a different base when they switched from grass to turf. I'm not sure what all the process will be switching back to grass. I know with turf, they would just pull up the old and put down the new.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2018, 11:55:49 am »

I'm not sure about that, they had to remove soil and put down a different base when they switched from grass to turf. I'm not sure what all the process will be switching back to grass. I know with turf, they would just pull up the old and put down the new.
And the turf is north of a million to pull up and put down for a high school field. If they pay that for some dirt and sod they’re getting ripped. It shouldn’t cost half that much.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2018, 11:58:36 am »

Iowa State, Northwestern, Colorado and Michigan State all have excellent natural grass fields and have much colder weather.

The Chiefs, Packers, Bears, Browns,Eagles and Steelers also have grass fields.
As a packer fan i personally think the grass looks awful in late November and December. Its shredded, brown, and dead in some areas. Turf just seems like itd be better for winter.
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ricepig

Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2018, 12:00:51 pm »

And the turf is north of a million to pull up and put down for a high school field. If they pay that for some dirt and sod they’re getting ripped. It shouldn’t cost half that much.

Nope, not that much to pull up and put back down, about 1/2 that. It costs anywhere from $600k to $1M to install on a grass field, but that includes a lot of drainage work, curbing, and dirt work to remove the middle hump.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2018, 12:07:19 pm »

Since the stadium will be totally enclosed from now on, it will be even more difficult.

Since we are in the northern hemisphere, the sun is always in the southern half of the sky during football season.  The south end of the stadium was already enclosed the last time we had grass.  Changes to the north end will have no additional effect on the ability to keep grass growing during the season. 

totally enclosed

And you forgot about "the gap".  I wish the designers had...
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2018, 12:33:23 pm »

I hope they start painting the end zones red as well with white letters. I love that we’re going back to real grass. Football ain’t football without grass stains
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2018, 12:56:37 pm »

yay
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2018, 01:33:17 pm »

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2018, 02:46:41 pm »

We have to replace the turf, what do you suggest we play on?

Play them in Little Rock?  Doesn't make any sense to continue putting any money into this stadium if we are just going to continue to take games away.  The fans 'Answered the call', the politicians and administration told the fans to pound sand.  Just stating the obvious.
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ricepig

Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2018, 03:04:29 pm »

Play them in Little Rock?  Doesn't make any sense to continue putting any money into this stadium if we are just going to continue to take games away.  The fans 'Answered the call', the politicians and administration told the fans to pound sand.  Just stating the obvious.

As much as I would like for all games to be played on campus, we haven't ever played 7 home games in RRS, we will now in even years.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2018, 03:41:32 pm »

None outside of us.

Not correct. Mississippi State's Stadium has a Turf surface.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2018, 03:46:32 pm »

Since we are in the northern hemisphere, the sun is always in the southern half of the sky during football season.  The south end of the stadium was already enclosed the last time we had grass.  Changes to the north end will have no additional effect on the ability to keep grass growing during the season. 

And you forgot about "the gap".  I wish the designers had...

I know about the gap. The stadium is mostly enclosed below the gap.

The South end zone being enclosed is one of the reasons they changed the surface to turf. The south end of the field wasn't getting enough sun to keep the grass green and looking good late in the season. That end turned brown before the North end did.
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ricepig

Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2018, 03:48:24 pm »

Not correct. Mississippi State's Stadium has a Turf surface.

They have Tifway 419 Bermuda grass, if that's what you are calling turf surface.

 
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2018, 04:06:21 pm »

They have Tifway 419 Bermuda grass, if that's what you are calling turf surface.

 
LOL. Guv being Guv again. Straight talking out of his arse.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2018, 04:27:17 pm »

They have Tifway 419 Bermuda grass, if that's what you are calling turf surface.

 

According to Wikipedia, Mississippi State has a Turf surface on their football field..
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2018, 04:33:30 pm »

According to Wikipedia, Mississippi State has a Turf surface on their football field..


Try again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Wade_Stadium
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2018, 04:35:59 pm »

Gap?  Why would you have a gap in sod, seems it would be a problem with turf.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2018, 04:39:19 pm »

According to Wikipedia, Mississippi State has a Turf surface on their football field..

Turf = grass.
Artificial turf = not grass.
You = no clue.

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2018, 04:41:51 pm »

Try again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Wade_Stadium

It says Prescription Athletic Turf. Do you know what that is???


Google it and you'll see it's a new variety of Artificial surface.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2018, 04:46:51 pm »

It says Prescription Athletic Turf. Do you know what that is???


Google it and you'll see it's a new variety of Artificial surface.

No it's not, it's the system of drainage for the turf, lol. If you are able to read, it says it uses an underground system of vacuums, moisture sensors and drain pipes to either drain excess water from the field or to backflow and send water to the grass roots. Under the turf is a twoply plastic sheet that seals off the field from the surrounding earth. The growing medium above the liner is largely sand, which aids in drainage.


http://www.purdue.edu/uns/html3month/1990-95/9111.Tally.AthleticTurf.html
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2018, 04:48:38 pm »

Turf = grass.
Artificial turf = not grass.
You = no clue.

Jus say Turf or Sod...simpler!
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2018, 04:57:18 pm »

No it's not, it's the system of drainage for the turf, lol. If you are able to read, it says it uses an underground system of vacuums, moisture sensors and drain pipes to either drain excess water from the field or to backflow and send water to the grass roots. Under the turf is a twoply plastic sheet that seals off the field from the surrounding earth. The growing medium above the liner is largely sand, which aids in drainage.


http://www.purdue.edu/uns/html3month/1990-95/9111.Tally.AthleticTurf.html


That's an interesting concept. The U of A should look into that.



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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2018, 05:10:16 pm »

Any insight to why CM prefers grass?

Because he is a high school coach.

Seriously. Was asked what he prefers in one of his introductory PC's here and he said grass because I'm a high school coach. Ha.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2018, 05:12:25 pm »

Because he is a high school coach.

Seriously. Was asked what he prefers in one of his introductory PC's here and he said grass because I'm a high school coach. Ha.

He wouldn't like it if he had to "paint" the field, ha.
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2018, 05:17:25 pm »

Where's the "grassguy" when you need him?

http://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=659638.msg11474289#msg11474289

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2018, 06:10:35 pm »

I'm surprised/disappointed no one has dropped either a joke or a conspiracy theory about Les Miles, yet

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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2018, 06:20:54 pm »

It says Prescription Athletic Turf. Do you know what that is???


Google it and you'll see it's a new variety of Artificial surface.

I changed the wiki page to say that....
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Re: RRS to get natural grass in 2019
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2018, 06:23:23 pm »

I flew out to San Bernardino last night and sure smelled a lot of burning grass.




I don’t get why someone would care what the field looks like in November. Just win.
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