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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2018, 01:15:46 pm »

What logic????  I asked and we learned the answer, itís merely because he was ranked 5 stars.  No substance at the collegiate level like a spaight, brandon Martin or others. 

I mean, those two only had juco experience. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2018, 01:21:07 pm »

I'll keep taking 5-star QB's until one works out.

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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2018, 01:27:32 pm »

Broderick Green contributed.  We can debate how much, but he did contribute.

Cam Jefferson contributed on the OL.
Loved Broderick Green blasting up the middle for the winning td against the Aggies in 2011.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2018, 01:29:21 pm »

Got it, you are solely basing your opinion on a star rating.  No more needs to be said
he NEVER said "solely" he also explained reasons.

So much false equivalency from you.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2018, 01:30:13 pm »

That's not the question.  In our history, have any transfers other than Mallett really been big time players?
last year our leading rusher was who?

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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2018, 01:32:51 pm »

If Hunter Johnson - or any other 5* player, for that matter - should happen to inexplicably opt for Arkansas, - - he would very likely IMMEDIATELY drop to 3* status.

If this report is true, I WOULD be concerned that we might be heavily-loading-up on QBs, - - - necessitating a winnowing out process to divest our program of several QBs who would very likely never see playing time.  That's just idle speculation on my part.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2018, 01:34:08 pm »

Guys, this literally comes from a thread on the pay boards from a guy that knows a guy who knows the brother of a Clemson booster. Thereís zero info to assume itís anything but complete BS.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2018, 01:36:01 pm »

Guys, this literally comes from a thread on the pay boards from a guy that knows a guy who knows the brother of a Clemson booster. Thereís zero info to assume itís anything but complete BS.
so presser at 4?

book it
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2018, 01:41:57 pm »

last year our leading rusher was who?

Nice player but we probably go the same 4-8 without him. 
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 03:37:38 pm by hoggusamoungus »
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2018, 01:43:53 pm »

Refresh my fading memory.  Not including JUCO players, is Mallett the only transfer that has made a big contribution to the program?

I thought David Williams made a sizable contribution last year.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2018, 01:45:06 pm »

I mean, those two only had juco experience.

But you did have some collegiate tape and two years to see...
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2018, 01:45:48 pm »

he NEVER said "solely" he also explained reasons.

So much false equivalency from you.

He went searching AFTER he answered, 5 stars was his reasoning. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2018, 01:58:18 pm »

But you did have some collegiate tape and two years to see...

Meh.  I'll take any transfer QB with that offer list coming out of HS. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2018, 02:05:37 pm »

Why not? Have you seen what we have on campus right now?

Currently we have 4 QBs on campus and I believe 2 more are headed to campus in June. I'm not sure CCM would want to add a 7th QB to the roster.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2018, 02:22:03 pm »

Currently we have 4 QBs on campus and I believe 2 more are headed to campus in June. I'm not sure CCM would want to add a 7th QB to the roster.

some are gonna be leaving regardless of who wins the job or comes in..lol
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2018, 02:23:36 pm »

He went searching AFTER he answered, 5 stars was his reasoning. 
yea only an idiot wouldnt be interested...
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2018, 02:34:00 pm »

Meh.  I'll take any transfer QB with that offer list coming out of HS.

Where did I say I wouldn't?

Geeze
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2018, 02:34:53 pm »

yea only an idiot wouldnt be interested...

Only idiots base their judgements off of star rankings only... see how easy that was.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2018, 02:47:20 pm »

Where did I say I wouldn't?

Geeze

Didn't say you wouldn't. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2018, 02:55:11 pm »

Only idiots base their judgements off of star rankings only... see how easy that was.

yes I am an idiot along with every coach in America that offered the kid...Have you watched any video on this kid since you think we should turn our shoulder to him?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2018, 02:59:32 pm »

Where did I say I wouldn't?

Geeze


You didn't...finish school, did you?
 ???

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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2018, 03:00:55 pm »

yes I am an idiot along with every coach in America that offered the kid...Have you watched any video on this kid since you think we should turn our shoulder to him?

I agree, but not for the reason you listed.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2018, 03:03:16 pm »

Hunter Johnson is a good player, and could help us.  He fits the dual option Morris wants and can make some great throws on the run Did anyone actually look at his mopup duty stats or high school/elite 11 tape?

78% Completion, 2 td and 1 int.  He was a true FR last year, so could transfer in RS and have 3 to play 3.  Not to mention, I would think his knowledge of the offense (Clemson & Morris offense are similar) would potentially be better than our guys.

He is 3rd string on a National Championship contender because the #1 overall player in nation who is a freak prospect enrolled. That and he lost the job as a true FR to another great veteran QB who shined last season. Give him a year to learn the offense under Morris, and I would think he'd be ready to roll!
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2018, 03:04:54 pm »

I love whenever we offer/get a new recruit or potential transfer and everyone suddenly becomes an expert at reviewing tape.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #74 on: April 16, 2018, 03:10:49 pm »

I agree, but not for the reason you listed.
if your opinion mattered.... id be hurt right now...
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #75 on: April 16, 2018, 03:16:44 pm »

Hunter Johnson is a good player, and could help us.  He fits the dual option Morris wants and can make some great throws on the run Did anyone actually look at his mopup duty stats or high school/elite 11 tape?

78% Completion, 2 td and 1 int.  He was a true FR last year, so could transfer in RS and have 3 to play 3.  Not to mention, I would think his knowledge of the offense (Clemson & Morris offense are similar) would potentially be better than our guys.

He is 3rd string on a National Championship contender because the #1 overall player in nation who is a freak prospect enrolled. That and he lost the job as a true FR to another great veteran QB who shined last season. Give him a year to learn the offense under Morris, and I would think he'd be ready to roll!
exactly, man. He is an amazing Qb. Rated highly, yes, VERY highly, as in top 25 over all and #2 QB. His stats are great. He already knows the offense. The ONLY reason he'd come here is b/c the two guys ahead of him are two FREAKS, and b/c he has a great chance to take over as QB here being as he'll be the most talented QB on campus and could run the scout team while he sits a year.. But hogville gonna hogville. I 100% concur with you, man.

If Hunter Johnson - or any other 5* player, for that matter - should happen to inexplicably opt for Arkansas, - - he would very likely IMMEDIATELY drop to 3* status.

If this report is true, I WOULD be concerned that we might be heavily-loading-up on QBs, - - - necessitating a winnowing out process to divest our program of several QBs who would very likely never see playing time.  That's just idle speculation on my part.
no, he wouldnt. He is a transfer, bro.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2018, 03:22:57 pm »

What would we have to lose by having him on our team?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #77 on: April 16, 2018, 03:23:34 pm »

yes I am an idiot along with every coach in America that offered the kid...Have you watched any video on this kid since you think we should turn our shoulder to him?

Dude, I asked you an honest non Smart Arse question if your "yes please" was based on more than the five star rating. You answered that question saying basically no. Now you are trying to defend yourself when I'm not even arguing.  You could have said tape, offers, etc, yet you didn't till you realized how silly it is to beg for a kid to transfer here because of his star rating.

The point I was trying to make is I don't put all the stock in the world on star rating, if we do as Arkansas fans then why do we even waste our time?  We've seen first hand commits get star bumps by committing to our division rivals and others.  We've seen first hand a 5 star Arkansas kid not ever perform close to his ranking. 

It's more about recruiting to your system than anything in todays football.  I also like to put more stock in legit offers than stars, however I am wavering off of that because I think we are seeing more offers passed around now that may not be committable than ever before.  Big picture, the kid can't play this season anyways, we just brought in two more scholarship QB's with us pursing by most on heres accord an all world beater, and we want to take in another transfer.  How many scholarships will that be at the QB spot come next spring?  Way too many when we have depth issues all over the place.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2018, 03:26:21 pm »

What would we have to lose by having him on our team?
not a damn thing. reid miller already opened a hole for us
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2018, 03:36:44 pm »

Dude, I asked you an honest non Smart Arse question if your "yes please" was based on more than the five star rating. You answered that question saying basically no. Now you are trying to defend yourself when I'm not even arguing.  You could have said tape, offers, etc, yet you didn't till you realized how silly it is to beg for a kid to transfer here because of his star rating.

The point I was trying to make is I don't put all the stock in the world on star rating, if we do as Arkansas fans then why do we even waste our time?  We've seen first hand commits get star bumps by committing to our division rivals and others.  We've seen first hand a 5 star Arkansas kid not ever perform close to his ranking. 

It's more about recruiting to your system than anything in todays football.  I also like to put more stock in legit offers than stars, however I am wavering off of that because I think we are seeing more offers passed around now that may not be committable than ever before.  Big picture, the kid can't play this season anyways, we just brought in two more scholarship QB's with us pursing by most on heres accord an all world beater, and we want to take in another transfer.  How many scholarships will that be at the QB spot come next spring?  Way too many when we have depth issues all over the place.

My yes please was based off of one of two games I saw Clemson play last year. He got in for mop up duty and the TV announcers raved about the kid and then he led them on his first drive going perfect if i recall. He actually looked better than Bryant. Was even more intrigued when I looked him up this morning and read some stuff about him. His high school and small college film look good. Hes a plus athlete obviously when he was rated one of the top 24 in the nation at the Nike camp and was the only QB. His offers speak for themselves.. commitable i would guess since he was a top 30 player and #2 QB. Morris should be going after him regardless of what he have on campus or have coming in. He could suck or we could strike gold like we did with Mallett. He looks like he would be a perfect fit for what Morris wants to do.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2018, 03:38:30 pm »

Please, why?  Because the 5 stars?  Has guy done anything to show us he's better than anyone else?  Honest questions, not trying to be a SA
One remember that are many star gazers on this site.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2018, 03:41:42 pm »

not a damn thing. reid miller already opened a hole for us


Actually we still need 1 or more to go, but the major holdup is, he hasn't said he's transferring, lol.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2018, 03:48:39 pm »

Might begin to wonder if Morris knew of him from the camps or some other relationship for us to pop up from him.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2018, 03:50:12 pm »

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If he fits what I want, sure. We saw a 5* a few years ago that didn't fit.
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You need to make sure Coach Morris knows what you want so he can decide, but if left to his own devices he probably wants the same thing that Clemson does since they run the same system.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #84 on: April 16, 2018, 03:52:33 pm »

Because we are so meta, our favorite player isn't the backup qb on our own team, it's the backup qb on a different team!

That's pretty funny...
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2018, 04:40:24 pm »

The kid can't play this upcoming season, right?  So He's going to beat out say a CK whose been under Morris for a full season and two offseasions, or a Nolan, or hopefully the stud that we keep hearing about in Gunnell?

I'm all for competition, but at some point we are on path to either deter future QB's to keep the pipeline going or we will have way too many scholarships being spent on QB's.

I was thinking the exact same thing.  A Texas high 4 star to me, keeping channels going that way, is worth more than a transferring 5 star running from competition.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2018, 04:50:39 pm »

What would we have to lose by having him on our team?

An offensive or defensive lineman, as opposed to our 7th qb.
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ricepig

Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2018, 04:52:28 pm »

An offensive or defensive lineman, as opposed to our 7th qb.

We don't have 6 QB's on scholarship.......
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2018, 05:06:09 pm »

lol... when did we become to good to take 5* talent?
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2018, 05:11:49 pm »

exactly, man. He is an amazing Qb. Rated highly, yes, VERY highly, as in top 25 over all and #2 QB. His stats are great. He already knows the offense. The ONLY reason he'd come here is b/c the two guys ahead of him are two FREAKS, and b/c he has a great chance to take over as QB here being as he'll be the most talented QB on campus and could run the scout team while he sits a year.. But hogville gonna hogville. I 100% concur with you, man.
no, he wouldnt. He is a transfer, bro.

Point taken.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2018, 05:54:06 pm »

We don't have 6 QB's on scholarship.......

Is it 5 right now? That is with none schedule to graduate after the incoming season and anticipate taking at least one in the next recruiting class.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2018, 05:56:12 pm »

Is it 5 right now? That is with none schedule to graduate after the incoming season and anticipate taking at least one in the next recruiting class.

Correct 5, and I still bet we have one transfer out by the end of August. Peavy transferred out in late August after he wasn't made the backup.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2018, 06:01:00 pm »

If he fits what I want, sure. We saw a 5* a few years ago that didn't fit.
And yet a 5* transfer is the top passing QB in Razorback history.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2018, 06:05:08 pm »

This is great news
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2018, 06:08:56 pm »

Counting Jones and Noland coming in this fall, Arkansas has 7 quarterbacks.  I see no reason to have five QBs for bench warmers.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2018, 06:19:00 pm »

And yet a 5* transfer is the top passing QB in Razorback history.

Tyler Wilson holds the career passing yardage, BA holds career TD and single game TD  records. Mallett does hold the single season records in yardage and TD's.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2018, 06:41:44 pm »

Tyler Wilson holds the career passing yardage, BA holds career TD and single game TD  records. Mallett does hold the single season records in yardage and TD's.
Was going off a recent ranking. You can make an argument for several QBs. Ryan has a better TD:INT ratio and almost the same yardage and completion percentage as Tyler.

Even if you want to split hairs about 3 great QBs I think my point is still valid.
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2018, 06:44:09 pm »

id take the kid and let it work itself out.  if he comes here cool.  perhaps will have an idea of what we are already trying to run.  will theoretically make the everyone get better if they want to start.  people see the 5* and automatically think he's awesome.  that isnt always the case.  i wish it was a 5*  OL or DL player that was wanting to transfer in though.  haha..  but, i think we'd take the kid if he wants to come and see how it goes.  the bad might be that it may deter Gunnel from coming if we had a 5* kid transfer in.  never know. 
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2018, 06:57:29 pm »

How likely is this to happen? ( from a Feb, 2018 AP article)


"...The NCAA is considering allowing athletes who are doing well in the classroom to transfer with immediate eligibility and permitting incoming freshmen to back out of a national letter of intent if there is a head coaching change...."

"...The group will meet again in April and plans to have a model it can present to NCAA membership for comment. The goal is to present a proposal for the Board of Governors to consider for approval in June...."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/02/13/ncaa-considers-tying-transfer-eligibility-to-academic-marks/110380578/
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Re: Hunter Johnson 5* QB (considering Arkansas, transfer from Clemson)
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2018, 07:02:54 pm »

You donít pass up a five star transfer unless thereís a non-football related issue.  Of course, we have no idea if itís even possible but we all know we need as much elite talent as we can get.  If he wants to come here, bring him on.
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