Hogville Info
• 10,154,796 Posts
• 405,160 Topics
• 23,128 Hogvillians
THE RULES (Read 'em!)
Quick Links
Pick'Ems:Football      Basketball      Baseball
Sister Sites:Gridiron HistoryFearless Friday
Pages: 1 ... 873 874 875 [876] 877 878 879   Go Down

Author Topic: All Things Gruden--MERGED  (Read 641682 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

(notOM)Rebel123


Kids will crawl to play for him.

...and he's not that great of a coach. He's never had to recruit against the elite's of college football... Just sayin'

Heck, Al Davis traded him for 4 draft picks & cash
Logged

Vantage 8 dude

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 212
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 12,405
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

Brohm has all of what, 8 games in a Power 5 conference? The "Genius Coach" Petrino is 5-4 with the best QB he has ever had and should be 4-5 as they were lucky to beat FSU last week. They just got smoked by Wake Forest..

Petrino is better than what we have, but defense optional, X Box, just outscore opponents 45-41 will not win a championship in the SEC. I would think that would be UT's goal.

Saban is probably hoping for the chance to trash Petrino's offense some more. Tennessee should be trying to beat the Gators to Norvell as Gruden is an over rated coach with no college experience other than 2 years as a GA.

Gruden took over a great defense in Tampa that just needed a l ittle bump on offense. Dungy was a way better coach who won a Super Bowl as soon as he got a franchise QB on an Indy team that had no defense.

I would like to see Norvell in red, but our AD and many fans are too deliriously happy with 6-6 or 7-6 seasons..
So you say many of the FANS are deliriously happy with a 6-6 or 7-8 season ??? You obviously haven't been paying very much attention to various websites and/or call-in shows now have you ??? :o
Logged

Sponsored Ad



Hogville encourages you to do business with the following...

hog.goblin

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 221
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,925
  • It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning.

Kids will crawl to play for him.

Itís not that simple.  Is ready to work anywhere near as hard as Smart or Saban?  Does the recruiting drop off after Saban smokes him (assumption on my part).
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

...and he's not that great of a coach. He's never had to recruit against the elite's of college football... Just sayin'

Heck, Al Davis traded him for 4 draft picks & cash

He won a SB and had .500 career as a HC in the NFL. His coaching kicks the crap out of Saban, Petrino and Pete Carrol (first round) in the NFL.

Recruit would line up for him. The watch him on Monday night football and his QB draft show.

Itís a similar affect to a TV helping make someone President
Logged

Rudy Baylor


I hope they get Gruden and leave the talented pool of up and comers alone.

Best post on here in the last 10 to 12 months
Logged

SavageOrangeJug

  • Walk-On
  • *
  • Total likes: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

and they are considering CBP.........Wow.....the carousel is beginning to spin...

"As reported by The Read Optionalís Oliver Connolly and Trey Wallace, Tennessee officials have offered the Super Bowl-winning coach ďover $10 million a yearĒ to lead the Volunteers. Connolly and Wallace also report the Vols are eyeing TCUís Gary Patterson, Louisvilleís Bobby Petrino and Purdueís Jeff Brohm."
As a Vol fan I would rather have Patterson than any of them.
Logged

hog.goblin

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 221
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,925
  • It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning.

He won a SB and had .500 career as a HC in the NFL. His coaching kicks the crap out of Saban, Petrino and Pete Carrol (first round) in the NFL.

College coaching isnít the NFL.  Apples and oranges.
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


He won a SB and had .500 career as a HC in the NFL. His coaching kicks the crap out of Saban, Petrino and Pete Carrol (first round) in the NFL.

Is he applying for an NFL job?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/973443-8-most-overrated-head-coaches-in-nfl-history
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

Is he applying for an NFL job?

You said he couldnít coach.

I listed the coaches he is better than.
Logged

Hoggish1


Hopefully they get one of them.

Hopefully they get none of them.
Logged

RedRock


It's worth the risk
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

College coaching isnít the NFL.  Apples and oranges.

Yeah, I guess thatís why Harbaugh struggled going from College to Pros and back to College again.

Gruden would have a Harbaugh type affect
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


You said he couldnít coach.

I listed the coaches he is better than.

No I didn't. I never said he couldn't coach. I said he wasn't that great of a coach. Big difference.
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


Yeah, I guess thatís why Harbaugh struggled going from College to Pros and back to College again.

Gruden would have a Harbaugh type affect
Did Harbaugh sit out 10 years?
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

No I didn't. I never said he couldn't coach. I said he wasn't that great of a coach. Big difference.

If that isnít what you were implying then I apologize.
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

Did Harbaugh sit out 10 years?

Dick Vermeil did and he Asst he will hire will not have been
Logged

hog.goblin

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 221
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,925
  • It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning.

Yeah, I guess thatís why Harbaugh struggled going from College to Pros and back to College again.

Gruden would have a Harbaugh type affect

Harbaughís record at Michigan is worse than Hokeyís at this stage in their tenures.
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


If that isnít what you were implying then I apologize.
I was merely stating that he won a Super Bowl with a team Tony Dungy had built. After that, he didn't have nearly as much success. He hasn't coached in nearly a decade. He has never had to recruit to the level he would have to now.
He's popular because he is charismatic on TV and is very knowledgeable of the game. But that it is a whole different ball game than being a head coach in the SEC. I just don't believe he is the savior that many seem to think.
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

Harbaughís record at Michigan is worse than Hokeyís at this stage in their tenures.

Not good at Math?

Hoke 11-2 8-5 7-6

Harbaugh 10-3 10-3 currently 6-2
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


Dick Vermeil did and he Asst he will hire will not have been

That was in the NFL not SEC. In 1997... for heavens sake.
Logged

Hog N Bama


They can try to get Gary Patterson, but they probably won't get him.

It has been rumored that Patterson has been promised a mineral right to a shale if he stays at TCU.  It is rumored that the mineral right is worth $20 million.

If true, really no other school can compete with a one-time payout of $20 million.
donít they ever run out of oil in TX? When o when will the well run dry🙁
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

That was in the NFL not SEC. In 1997... for heavens sake.

And the game is more simple now than ever. Teams are running the read option 20 times a game. Very easy to teach
Logged

BigoBoys


Gruden is not going to coach college football. 
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

Gruden is not going to coach college football.

I think this is likely. But if he did he would be a rock star
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


And he game is more simple now than ever. Teams are running the read option 20 times a game. Very easy to teach

So Dick Vermeil coming out of a 15 year retirement, means Jon Gruden will be a success at Tennessee? I see.
Logged

hog.goblin

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 221
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,925
  • It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning.

Not good at Math?

Hoke 11-2 8-5 7-6

Harbaugh 10-3 10-3 currently 6-2

I repeated what was said on the radio a few days ago (ESPNu).  Must have been conference record.  Both started 6 - 2 each year.  Thatís cherry picked.  Probably something Rick Neuheisel said.
Logged

King Kong

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 696
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,782
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

So Dick Vermeil coming out of a 15 year retirement, means Jon Gruden will be a success at Tennessee? I see.

It means a coach with a long layoff can still have success. Which your post seemed to imply couldnít happen
Logged

forrest city joe


and they are considering CBP.........Wow.....the carousel is beginning to spin...

"As reported by The Read Optionalís Oliver Connolly and Trey Wallace, Tennessee officials have offered the Super Bowl-winning coach ďover $10 million a yearĒ to lead the Volunteers. Connolly and Wallace also report the Vols are eyeing TCUís Gary Patterson, Louisvilleís Bobby Petrino and Purdueís Jeff Brohm."
TN is tired of losing. they will spend whatever  it takes to get a Big time coach and win.some schools still care about winning.
Logged

Hog N Bama


TN is taking the shotgun approach. Jon Gruden. 😂
Logged

SavageOrangeJug

  • Walk-On
  • *
  • Total likes: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

I hope they get Gruden and leave the talented pool of up and comers alone.
We don't want any more "up and comers".

Derek Dooley was an up and comer from the Saban coaching tree.

Butch Jones won the Big East championship, a Liberty Bowl victory, and was named Big East Coach of the Year. He was an up and comer.

Logged

hog.goblin

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 221
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,925
  • It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning.

Not good at Math?

Hoke 11-2 8-5 7-6

Harbaugh 10-3 10-3 currently 6-2

I repeated what was said on the radio a few days ago (ESPNu).  Must have been conference record.  Both started 6 - 2 each year.  Thatís cherry picked.  Probably something Rick Neuheisel said.

Actually Rick was right when he said it.  They both started out 24 - 7
Logged

Sowlamander

  • Band Nerd
  • **
  • Total likes: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

I think Gruden coaches again at some point. But, itíll be in the NFL.
Logged

Ex-Trumpet

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Total likes: 698
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 14,884
  • When life gives you lemons, get a boob job!

I think Gruden coaches again at some point. But, itíll be in the NFL.

NFL seems to be going the way of ESPN.
Logged

hog.goblin

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 221
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,925
  • It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning.

Not good at Math?

Hoke 11-2 8-5 7-6

Harbaugh 10-3 10-3 currently 6-2

Both also started 25 - 8, so take your pick, the math is just fine
Logged

lilredheadedlady


If Petrino goes to Tenner or Florida, we are screwed. He will break it off in us.
Logged

greasy_corner


I hope they do hire him.  A school who's star has faded faster than a brett smith post route, and who has to maintain one of the nation's largest recruiting budget just to have the candy-assed kids cheered on by a bunch of inbred orange popsicles.  It's a match made in heaven.
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


If Petrino goes to Tenner or Florida, we are screwed. He will break it off in us.

How often do we play Florida & Tennessee?
Logged

(notOM)Rebel123


It means a coach with a long layoff can still have success. Which your post seemed to imply couldnít happen

Again...I never said that. Stop assuming and stop comparing apples to oranges(NFL vs College)
Logged

gawntrail

  • Senior
  • *****
  • Total likes: 53
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,097
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

We should make a run at Sean Payton.
Logged

go hogues

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Total likes: 165
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 6,710
  • You're at an eight but we need you at a two.

If Petrino goes to Tenner or Florida, we are screwed. He will break it off in us.
Iíd rather he be there than Ole Miss or A&M
Logged

247Hog


I hope Tenn is stupid enough to pay a coach $10 mil. That would be stupid for a coach that hasn't coached College.

I'm probably in the minority but i see Tenn and Florida looking for coaches as a good thing. Both are in the East, both are down but could eventually level out the SEC like Georgia is doing to Bama.

Georgia looks like the most close to replicate a Bama ive seen.
Logged

texas tush hog


They can try to get Gary Patterson, but they probably won't get him.

It has been rumored that Patterson has been promised a mineral right to a shale if he stays at TCU.  It is rumored that the mineral right is worth $20 million.

If true, really no other school can compete with a one-time payout of $20 million.



It actually could be more than that. The Gary Patterson Foundation could be worth more than that, with him and his wife's family controlling it. Patterson will die in Fort Worth ala Frank Broyles.
Logged

jcbville


Please Lord let CBP go to Tenn. Please let it come to pass.
Logged

jcbville


If Petrino goes to Tenner or Florida, we are screwed. He will break it off in us.

We donít play them enough for it to matter near that much. Also BP hasnt really been breaking it off in anyone in the ACC. He needs to use his genius more.
Logged

Hogaholics Anonymous

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Total likes: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 59
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net

I was merely stating that he won a Super Bowl with a team Tony Dungy had built. After that, he didn't have nearly as much success. He hasn't coached in nearly a decade. He has never had to recruit to the level he would have to now.
He's popular because he is charismatic on TV and is very knowledgeable of the game. But that it is a whole different ball game than being a head coach in the SEC. I just don't believe he is the savior that many seem to think.

To be fair the team he played in the Super Bowl was the team he was at the year before. He had a hand in building that team that won the AFC.  You may be right and he wouldn't be a good college coach, we may never really know, but I don't think you can cheapen his Super Bowl win.
Logged

hogsanity

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Total likes: 1049
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 49,785
  • You like my stripes, I know you do.

WTH is the fascination with Gruden? He has not coached a game, anywhere, in 8 seasons, and has not held a job in college in more than 2 decades.
Logged

Wildhog


WTH is the fascination with Gruden? He has not coached a game, anywhere, in 8 seasons, and has not held a job in college in more than 2 decades.

shhhh  let someone else hire him
Logged

hogsanity

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Total likes: 1049
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 49,785
  • You like my stripes, I know you do.

TN is tired of losing. they will spend whatever  it takes to get a Big time coach and win.some schools still care about winning.

Umm, Brohm is not a big time coach. Gruden has not coached ANYWHERE in 8 years and has not held a college job in over 20. Patterson is not leaving FW, and BP, yep tearing it up in the ACC, lol.  From the report you quoted, TN is not even looking at the best college coach in the state of TN.
Logged

Inhogswetrust

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Total likes: 1556
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 39,327
  • Guessing is easier than actually trying!

He won a SB and had .500 career as a HC in the NFL. His coaching kicks the crap out of Saban, Petrino and Pete Carrol (first round) in the NFL.

Recruit would line up for him. The watch him on Monday night football and his QB draft show.

Itís a similar affect to a TV helping make someone President

The last TV guy we hired as a head coach didn't quite work out so well.
Logged

NaturalStateReb

  • Czar of Arkansas
  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • **********
  • Total likes: 363
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 8,188

It's hard to imagine Gruden taking any coaching job when he can make millions for basically just sitting on a stool in front of a camera.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 873 874 875 [876] 877 878 879   Go Up
 

KARK
KWNA
Fox 16 Arkansas